升2级，终于可以在这个区发主贴了。
来美国半年了，对这个国家有了一些初步的印象。
跟很多书里面说的一样，这个国家是狮子带着一群绵羊打仗。高级管理者，如联邦政府官员，大公司管理者皆为狡猾无比，深谋远虑的精英。他们绝大多数都出自法学院，商学院和医学院。理工科里有智商很高的天才，他们中的佼佼者一般来自印度和中国。虽然美国的大学很多，但是我依然觉得美国的大学教育是精英教育。美国绝大多数人智商情商都很低，一般为高中或社区大学毕业，做着普通工作。普通美国人一般给我这样的印象，友善，傻，悠闲。
绝大多数美国人对所有人都非常的友善（当然包括对中国人），你要有什么事儿，他比你还急。大城市的人比较冷漠，跟咱们的大城市居民一样。
美国人的傻体现在一切凭着自己感觉来，而且特别容易被诱导。选总统，在多数情况下，大伙就看着候选人衣服顺不顺眼。媒体基本都是王八蛋，为了吸引这帮傻逼观众，无论新闻还是电视剧，都透着一股强烈的浮躁和对个人情感的恣意发泄。与天朝的CCAV4一样，美国媒体对中国也是很少说好话，小心眼。
在美国人眼里，红色中国基本是万恶，践踏RQ，抢夺他们本国市场，造成美国失业率暴增。我有时候就忍不住破口大骂，我CNMD，你们一个个一周上5天班，还想方设法的偷懒。还不起还贷那么一大堆款提前潇洒。就这个工作态度没中国人你们也要失业啊！你们的政府帮你们在世界上四处肆无忌惮的掠夺，让你们本国物价极低，你们除了关心你们死了几个士兵以外，还关心过什么啊？再说，以你们这个智商，说啥你信啥，你还能对整个世界有个什么了解啊！
我最后一篇response paper就是下面的拙作。我们的老师是哈佛的一个女士。顺便一说，美国受过高等级教育的人，对中国人，有真正正确的理解。

Economic Crisis, Chinese People's fault?

    In most western people's eyes, China is a secret country. On one hand, It has more than 5,000 years history and awesome KongFu. It has delicious food and amazing old buildings. If an American travels in China, he/ she will be unbelievably warmly welcomed. On another hand, like North Korea, it is now under Communists' control. This is an evil country: they kill baby girls by the name of birth control; they kill young students by tanks (June 4th, 1989); they kill follower of religion (such as FaLun Gong); they pollute the air and water. One day, if war happens between China and US, the crazy Chinese communists will come to US secretly by small boats and kill with Kalashnikovs, at the same time, wave red flags.

    If all things mentioned above is none of Americans' business or just hypothesis, The following things are terrible. The bad thing is, now they have exported cheap clothes and toys, kicked "Made in USA" out of market step by step and caused job loss. The bad thing is, the Chinese government controlled the rate between Chinese Yuan and US dollar that caused the US' economical crisis. The worst thing is, just as Chinese people prefer to buy lots of LVs or Chanels, now they start to buy American companies and all American employees will be replaced by cheap Chinese employees. By the way, Chinese people buy anything. August 2nd, Chinese car manufacturer, Geely, bought Volvo from Ford with 1.8 billion dollars (1.6 billion cash and 0.2 billion note) . It seems that the US starts to lost the advantages to China.

    The Chinese dragon was not this horrible before. China was once America's ally in 1930s and 40s during the World War II. Chinese Army pinned down most Japanese troops that decreased the death of US Army. Inside the US, Chinese people used to be illegal immigrants and offspring of labors who built railways on west coast in the early 20th century. Most of them do not get good education and take jobs in restaurant. They choose to live in some specific communities so although they are noisy and have some "strange" customs, they will not bother other white Americans. Most of them are cowardly, they don't dare to be drug dealers. So at least, they are not harmful to the whole society and actually they serve delicious Chinese food.

    However, in the recent 30 years, things changed a lot. Chinese people started to be well educated and can write and speak English. The worst thing is, they cheat a lot. They copy American patents and software. After this, they sell these cheap products back to America just as what I have mentioned in the first part.

    Here, I have a interesting case to show how general Americans think of Chinese people. In my favorite TV series Boston Legal, the famous law firm "Crane, Pool, Schmidt" was finally bought by a group of greedy, ugly Chinese businessmen. Before the last episode, the whole series showed almost nothing related with Chinese people excluding an abortion case. It is very farfetched to have an end like this. However, the writer wrote it to meet people's frustration caused by job loss. Although the firm is fictional, this case represents the general Americans feeling on Chinese people.

    Cheap products from China, good or bad? Why "Made in China" is so cheap? Can Chinese businessmen control the price? After several months life in America, I find that all industrial products are much cheaper than those in China even almost all of them are made in China. Ironically, even the exactly same dumplings are much cheaper than those in China. If you are an owner of a Chinese company, do you want to export your products to the US? Why some companies still export products to the US? Some of these companies are invested by Americans; others will have allowance by Chinese government.

    Except LV and Gucci, Chinese tourists prefer to buy the latest Iphones in America. Why? They are much cheaper in the US. Actually, these exquisite toys should be much more expensive. However, Apple still gets billions every year. Where do these profits come from? Apple and other US companies pay less to the OEM companies, such as the Foxconn. Foxconn technology, the Chinese company who makes Imac, Iphone, Ipod, Ipad, IpXd for the US market is definitely a sweatshop. Several years ago, Foxconn is infamous because of its low salary. "Conversation on the production line is forbidden, bathroom breaks are kept to 10 minutes every two hours, and workers get yelled at frequently. " This year, tragedy comes to a peak. "So far this year, 10 Foxconn workers have committed suicide." Ironically, Americans criticized Chinese human rights with Foxconn's case. I guess, some of these criticisms are done by Macs and Iphones. Don't you think it is ridiculous? I cannot stand that my compatriots died because Americans' beautiful toys, but I cannot stand it more that Chinese human rights are blamed because of this ridiculous logic. Why these "Chinese" company owners are so greedy? Are these "Chinese" company owners really stand for Chinese people's benefits? Who are more greedy? Do you know what is the reaction from Apple? "Apple, Dell, and Hewlett-Packard have all announced intentions to look into Foxconn's working conditions. 'We're all over this,' Apple's Steve Jobs said at a tech conference on June 1. He called the suicides at Foxconn 'very troubling.'"  NO further action, NOTHING MORE. This tells us what is the definition of capitalist. Capitalists do not have nationalities, the only difference is that Chinese capitalists are hyenas and American capitalists are wolves. What is the fault of the Chinese government in this case and lots of other similar cases? The Chinese government is always eager to let foreigners to invest in China and lets so many foreign companies get profits by this way. What is the direct way to save these pitiful workers? Throw your Imacs, Iphones, Ipods, Ipads, IpXds away and say goodbye to all of them. Moreover, all products from Apple are stupid, as we can see from their names.

    The US government is always asking the Chinese government to decrease the rate between Chinese Yuan and US dollar to protect the domestic market. Last year, the US government blamed the Chinese government for manipulating the rate. When hearing things like this, I always have nothing to commit. China exports 2 billion shirts in order to buy a Boeing 737. While Chinese workers work 10 hours a day, 6 days a week; American workers are holding demonstrations to fight against "Made in China". Chinese people have no time to comment on people in other countries, what they concern about is when they can have not so small apartments and how to pay their sons/ daughters tuition. Here, I absolutely do not say that Americans are not good. Actually, most Americans are much kinder than Chinese people. I only talk about work. There is no absolutely fair, but do not make it go too far.

    Why don't we have a win-win solution? Can a win-lost last long? Why there are so many terrorist attacks? To be honest, from 2005 to maybe 2015, the world biggest economical war is the war between the US and China. Just like in the 1990s the US beat Japan, the US will beat China as well. In economical field, China is still naive and does not have enough experience. The US government, is much too clever. Too eager to get any possible profits and hurt all others, not only traditional friends such as European countries, but also components such as Asian countries.

    More worse, the US government losts its control to the financers in Wall street. These tycoons controlled the whole world, from cereal's price to oil price. They are conscienceless. These tycoons can easily destroy any small countries' economy in a few weeks (1998, Vietnam). In the recent world-wide economic crisis, they did not even show any mercy to their motherland, the United States. How can these tycoons provide loans to people who definitely cannot pay the money back? However, in capitalistic world, money works. These tycoons support the presidential election, they can indirectly launch any war, they control the media. One word, they have the whole world.
   
    One day, general public will be their own master. On that day, no one will have any bias on others. It will be a peaceful world.

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• ssTory 金币 +75 精彩文章 希望再见兄弟大作 2010-8-27 11:09
• ssTory 原创 +1 精彩文章 希望再见兄弟大作 2010-8-27 11:09
• ssTory 贡献 +1 精彩文章 希望再见兄弟大作 2010-8-27 11:09

lz文章前半段看得我热血沸腾,lz身处老美核心,为我等发回第一手资料,让我了解到了美国的愚民政策其实比我们还要厉害,还要下三滥.不过后面的让我一下子就冷了下来,原来我的英文已经退化到如此地步了么

Why don't we have a win-win solution? Can a win-lost last long? Why there are so many terrorist attacks?
这句倒是不错

不过如果都赢了，那谁输了呢？

身边有一些从美国回来的熟人，记忆最深刻的是一位卖安利产品的老大妈——经常跟我推销安利时大谈美国农产品多么绿色环保，耕地用蚯蚓捉虫用瓢虫，绝对没有农药化肥。前年还是去年去了美国看儿子，儿子当年随旅游团入境之后跑掉就在美国黑下来。老大妈从美国回来后逢人就夸美国的诸般好处——一双皮鞋穿了一个月没擦过，因为上面一点灰都没有，可见人家那地方多干净。着实让我想起她推销安利时蚯蚓耕地瓢虫捉虫的样子。

今天拜读了楼主的文章，真的眼前一亮。当然，也随之一暗。我那可怜的英文水平让我磕磕绊绊地读完了整篇文字。

不止一个人跟我说过，在外面最大的感受就是，普通民众心灵上的单纯，让国人吃惊。他们的单纯反应在：极度的善良，或者极度的邪恶。却很少有中间地带。所以后来看到一位博学的人说，其实全世界最“坏”的人是中国人，两面三刀笑里藏刀阳奉阴违心口不一 。 。 。也听说国外的精英教育造就了一大批学会“中国传统政治哲学”的所谓政治家，所以有人开玩笑，论情商，一个很普通的中国人去了国外，都能胜任他们的政府高官，权谋之术远超过那些长青藤学校出来的精英。

说道媒体，其实天下媒体都一样，唯恐乱的不够大的样子。为了刺激销量，它们不在乎颠倒黑白，不在乎添油加醋。我一个朋友就在报社任总编，清醒的时候他自称是做八卦的，喝醉时更自称为婊子。没办法，他想有良知，游戏规则却让他必须泯灭。

其实看看国内的舆论导向，两党大选作为政治新闻不能不报，但是普通老百姓跟喜欢看到的事情无非迈阿密发生警匪枪战，旧金山几百辆汽车连环追尾 。 。 。因为这样的“新闻”更好看。有多少人会去关心美国普通民众想什么做什么，没人关心。自己的柴米油盐还没买齐，他们想什么做什么自然不关我的事。反过来说，美国人也一样。

谈到这次美国航母黄海演戏，国内媒体似乎并没有过分渲染——也许基于某些原因也许根本不关心。至少，在青岛这一地，毗邻黄海，普通民众丝毫没有感到所谓的担心或者恐慌。啤酒节依然游人如织。如果前几年，或者媒体真的做出过度渲染，远的不说奥运火炬在巴黎遇袭时，家乐福超市就被义愤填膺的学生围堵超过半月，生意惨淡。

有时候想想，作为一介草根，我们思考我们争论除了能够锻炼我们的思维和表达以外，还会有多少更显著的作用。起码不会很多。

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• easy100 金币 +12 鼓励 2010-8-20 23:19

楼主 后面那段英文其实是你写的对吗，看用语就知道是“中国式” 的英文，不过基本意思表达清楚了。
我也是在美国的留学生，但我对有些事情的观点和你可能有差别。
首先美国作为超级大国，是唯一一个有能力而且愿意维护世界秩序的国家，他到处打仗，到处驻军，确实是为了争夺能源，但不仅仅是单纯掠夺资源这么简单。美国占领了伊拉克，在曾经独裁统治下的国度建立起了民主；美国驻军日韩，把战后一个百废待兴的战败国日本，一手扶植成了世界经济强国，还让日本的汽车抢走了本国汽车业的半壁江山。美国花了自己士兵的血和每月数十亿的军费打下的石油国家伊拉克， 却把很大一部分开采权卖给了中国公司，为什么呢？美国确实 像天朝愤青们所说的，管得宽，惹是非。近的海地发生地震，美国第一个派出军队救灾；远的非洲卢旺达发生内乱，美国第一时间调集空降兵去维护秩序，又为什么呢？真是单纯为了资源或战略控制，去非洲那么偏僻的小镇做什么？ 俄罗斯经济惨淡，没资金开发航天，美国独自撑起了开拓太空造福全人类的责任。 如果没有美国在欧洲，亚洲，非洲各地的驻军，没有美国全力遏制核武在中小国家扩散，没有美国东打打，西炸炸，这世界是真会太平还是混乱？ 全球的秩序，是需要有人负责，是需要有人去平衡的。
       可能有人要喷我 崇洋媚外，不过我是在国内生活了20年，体会也很深。就拿最贴近的 教育来说。美国可以拿本国纳税人的钱出来资助来自世界各地的 优秀学生————只要成绩优秀，就有奖学金，无论国籍，无论身份高低。美国的每所大学都有奖学金和助学program，即使是那些没有绿卡，甚至没有正式签证的外国学生，只要成绩优异，就能得到奖学金，包括生活补助来鼓励完成学业，即使那些学生学成之后会离开美国。即使近年来的经济危机，10％的失业率的压力下，美国政府仍然没有丝毫改变这些针对全球学子的福利政策。这让我想起在天朝的数十年求学经历，不被学校敲竹杠收 “择校费” 就烧香拜佛了！ “天朝”，一个本来应该是引以自豪的词语，在网络上却被用来代替一个被 屏蔽 的词，这是讽刺还是悲哀？
      美国国会每年拨款用于环保的数额仅次于军费开支，同在一个地球上，天朝每一个工厂排放的废气，大洋彼岸的美国却在毫不懈怠地清理。看到新闻近期的甘肃泥石流，失去的是自己的同胞，无比痛心，可归其缘由，哎环保啊。这让我感到很无奈，其实大家都生活在同一个天空下！
       如果这回帖发到天朝的任何论坛，估计在被封ip之前会被无数愤青喷满。祖国令我自豪的地方数不胜数，我也为身为国人的一员而感到荣幸。但每当我看到一些歪曲的评论，我就忍不住回上几句，因为我觉得理智爱国和盲目排外是两码事。我其实举例只是想说明，楼主对美国的有些看法并不客观。那片英文短文很明显根本就不是出自说英语人之笔。
      要说美国政府糊弄民众为愚民，我只想说，至少他们平民窟里的穷小孩可以奋斗成总统，至少他们的总统做了错事可以被弹劾，至少他们的政府不会连youtube都屏蔽了不让国民看。

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• easy100 金币 +12 鼓励 2010-8-20 23:19

我想指出楼主的一个误区：石油这种东西是商品，价高者得，不然也不会有期油指数。

不少人开口闭口“美国掠夺石油”，怎么个掠夺法？拿钱去高价掠夺么。

还有，楼主说美国人“傻”，就好像那个笑话一样，老师叫小朋友写有关“世界各国对饥荒的看法”，美国小朋友的回答是“什么是世界各国”，说到底不过是他们没兴趣去知道除了美国外的事物而已。真要说EQ或者常识，我还真想不到一个出国旅游比我们出省旅游更容易、没有城乡户口区别、没有信息过滤和舆论审查、没有单向洗脑的国度如何会出一些“傻子”。我以前的lecturer和tutor不少都有过两个以上国家的游历工作或者教学经验，和我们说起各个国家的风土人情是如数家珍。

加多句：楼主去美国仅仅半年，但半年并不足以让你了解一个国家，这仅仅是开始而已。

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• easy100 金币 +3 鼓励 2010-8-20 23:20

看楼主对普通的只上到高中的美国人的评价还有看文章的结尾，楼主对哈佛的价值观还是认同的。就是精英意识吧。
我一直的反对精英意识的。我觉得那是跟中国的社会最抵触的一种思维方式。
从骨子里中国是个道家社会。

说回文章吧。我反对楼主说一些美国人傻的提法。看看小布什那眼神、那傻样，可他杀人的时候什么时候犹豫过呢？

我觉得那是美国人表达友好的一种方式，也是一种社会信心。对社会的信息是可以换算成产值的。美国的民生产品和服务是世界上信誉度最高的之一。美国人不用担心吃到注水肉，不用担心缺斤短两，不用担心假药，还有三聚氰胺。他们有必要那么尖吗？

多少中国农村出来的美女胳膊上留下当年种豆（一种强制注射的疫苗）失败留下的大片大片的疤痕。这个问题我也是最近（夏天穿得衣服少）才在那些农村打工者身上发现的。

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• easy100 金币 +5 鼓励 2010-8-21 22:54

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原帖由 malady11 于 2010-8-20 15:09 发表
楼主 后面那段英文其实是你写的对吗，看用语就知道是“中国式” 的英文，不过基本意思表达清楚了。
我也是在美国的留学生，但我对有些事情的观点和你可能有差别。
首先美国作为超级大国，是唯一一个有能力而且愿意 ...

看得出你做过多次身份的转换，可以想象每一步都很辛苦。
不过其实你还有文革时那种倾向，可能是看那时候的文章影响的吧。
要实事求是，你在哪个阶段的经历要跟你那个阶段的身份相结合来讨论。你在有意无意的错乱的条件。你把每一个不满都客观的分析一下，我相信不用我驳你的。

中国是希望之国，要是没有土共中国也许会成为第二个日本，但有更大的可能是成为第二个墨西哥、菲律宾或印度尼西亚。土共犯了很多错，但它在该，欧洲从启蒙运动到现在枉死的人有多少呢？一战二战都是从哪打起来的呢？

要是没有土共其实也包括国民党的一些看似不近人情的做法（我没指反人类那些），中国是会分裂的，你以为土共和国民党所说的“统一”只包括那些自治区吗？李登辉当年真正惹恼了深蓝阵营非要把他开除党籍我觉得很可能是与李登辉提出了分裂中国的“七块论”有关的。中国分裂是日本右翼最希望看到的。中国各省的差异有多大谁都知道。我一直觉得土共和国民党最大的功绩就是实现和维持了中国的统一。当年军阀混战的时候“帝国主义”支持不同的军阀是有道理的，他们想把中国变成第二个中东或者非洲，让中国永远分裂和内斗下去。

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• easy100 金币 +6 鼓励 2010-8-21 22:55

要说美国政府糊弄民众为愚民，我只想说，至少他们平民窟里的穷小孩可以奋斗成总统，至少他们的总统做了错事可以被弹劾，至少他们的政府不会连youtube都屏蔽了不让国民看。
5L的你写的非常直白，中国什么时候能这样就好了，国家主席现在一当就是10年，主席永远正确的，唯一个想把中国弄成开放式民主的胡紫阳还郁郁而终！哎！还有这个国家没有知名的世界大品牌，尤其汽车，以前的红旗现在都见不到了，好点的奥迪还是和资的，卖给外国人加上关税也比卖给中国人的便宜！

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• easy100 金币 +2 鼓励 2010-8-21 22:56